if the Tele's neck pickup is mounted to the body it will be a bear to remove the pickguard to adjust the pickup unless you increase the size of the neck cutout on the pickguard because of the overhang at the end of the fretboard. RichThis is a question that has been baffling me about my next strat design. The Baritone Scale Conversion Neck employs an undercut heel design in order to fit these neck pockets. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. A Warmoth is based on vintage Fender specs and a 21 fret neck, a 22 fret version has a fretboard overhang. . I got some router bite on this fretboard. . The first step is to file the protruding fret ends flush to the fretboard. When your frets span multiple pages, you will need to tape them together before you cut the slots. Of course, customer must verify neck pocket dimensions. On the router table, use a flush trim router bit with a ball bearing to remove the excess fretboard material. That distances are almost equal to fretboard overhang, meanly 0. in my experience, the diff between heel or headstock adjustments is cosmetic/preference. 92" at the 12thBone NutDuel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg hole. Most Warmoth bodies and necks use the Strat®-shaped heel and neck pocket as standard. Many say the old neck joint sounds better, including Mr. . Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were originally designed for 22 frets. The neck was somehwere in the region of $250 if I recall, then I had a jet black ebony board and the fretboard overhang is squared off, as opposed to the usual Warmoth where it is rounded. I want to put a MIA Telecaster neck on the Cabronita body. 74K subscribers in the Luthier community. I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. frank falbo SS. Builder: Valenti Basses. Back in the day of 21 fret necks there was no overhang. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. You’ll also appreciate the American Pro II J Bass's sculpted neck heel, which provides a comfortable feel and easy access to this electric bass guitar’s upper. 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Be careful to file the metal only, stopping just as the file comes in contact with the finish. Line up the two lines. 1. You'd need a body designed for it. Seems the radius in the Fender pickguard was a little smaller than the control plate. Electronics. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. Feb 2, 2001. I had to file the pickguard back out of the way. 3. 2) I moved the vibrato unit back to the Jazzmaster positionLook at the fretboard overhang. 83" at the first fret , . 090 thick. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. No problem Also I didn't say ANY PREFMIC have fretboard overhang. I use a flat iron and a towel to keep excess heat from the soundboard. 25,683. I just sanded the underside of the fretboard overhang until it cleared the pickguard when the neck is fully bolted down. Tele specsI have a 2011 Fender Cabronita MIA body with TV Jones T Armond’s, and Bigsby. 5 - 4mm at the 12th fret. I am a bit shocked though, at the $2K level, they cannot give you a real neck instead of a modified mass produced neck. 625" on the body, and standard Fender neck heel height is is . - Pickup wiring would need to be routed differently. Here is a picture of a warmoth conversion neck. . Fits Tele style bodiesSpecs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang9. 5 radius fretboard approx . What am I missing here? I've never had a problem sliding the PG out from under the overhang on any of my Fenders with a 22 fret neck I do find the neck pickup stops against the neck pickup rout, unless there's a swimming pool rout or it's a SC in a HB rout. I got nothing else. Switching from a 21 to 22 fret neck usually requires no modification to the guitar. It needed a neck reset as the action was more than 1/3 of an inch! I used a saw to cut the neck heel and then bolted it back together. 750- this gives room for a bit less than 1/8″ underneath the fretboard overhang for a pick guard. The body is a mighty mite and has a deeper than standard neck pocket. Well, a few months ago, I happened to notice that there is quite a gap between the fretboard overhang and the pickguard, which my other Strats don't have. All kinds of materials are used for this. 00. my partscasters with overhanging 22 fret boards have about . The string spacing is 74mm string-to-string at the bridge and 49. What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. Work the spatula under the fretboard overhang. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangThe pickguard will cover the holes left by the hole. make an aftermarket 24 fret neck that's not just a fretboard overhang (and I don't really care about the upper frets that much, but that still leaves a neck pocket gap), and I'm a little dubious about picking up one of the extremely cheap Chinese-made 24 fret necks on eBay (although as a temporary. If you run into that pickguard issue in the future, you can also trim the underside of the fretboard overhang. 82" at the first fret , . On the eBay guitar it's square, like a Tele's. I work out the fretboard dimensions using those plus 3mm either side for string overhang. Trying my best to make something usable. Prefer 22 frets and rosewood on my fretboard, I grew up and learned playing on 25. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. Then a tortoise shell pickguard, stamped metal bridge saddles, new pots, new cap, new 5 way switch and new jack plug. Modifications/Repairs: previous neck reset, top patch near bridge, top crack repair treble side next to fretboard overhang. Preheat the iron and make sure it's on the steam setting. . I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. I used a dremel to widen the arc. Business, Economics, and Finance. Purple Drink finish, with translucent black burst (*special request to have the burst stop at the flat top) 3-piece body layer option. This neck fits most Tele® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. Saddle position of the e’ saddle should be set to allow travel in both directions for intonation. Like this:. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. This reduces the height of the gap between the top of the body and the bottom of the fretboard where it overhangs at the 22nd fret. For these particular cigar box guitar plans I used maple and black walnut for the neck, headstock, fretboard and fretboard markers as well as the bridge. Once installation is complete, simply re-intonate your guitar to match the new scale. I'm guessing that, the fretboard overhangs a bit? Here's a photo from a Stu-Mac kit. Keeping the same scale length, the fretboard would need overhang to where the neck pickup is. I ran into a snag with the control plate. Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. ElliottStrong Supporting Member. Silver Supporting Member. 2455, fret height (dont measure the tang, jus the crown) is . or could just be the. If you don't like it, you can reglue the fretboard extension and reinstall the fret. However, if you want to use a 24. 0″ thick neck. That’s quite different than a bridge pickup, I consider. I don't know if the 21-fret models just have a fretboard overhang, or not. However, without the overhang, it may be difficult to adjust the saddles enough to get proper intonation. • Fretboard overhang = 0. EDIT - oops, sorry, I didn't read properly and didn't realise the Pacifica had a 22 fret. 1,649 206. May 29, 2016 #6. Heel dimensions of the neck are 56mm wide, and ~3mm thick under the fretboard overhang. Rear Natural Clear body. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter number of frets to calculate: This page should allow a person to quickly and accurately calculate the information needed to design the fretboard of a stringed instrument. 5 string necks: Warmoth 22-fret necks (no fretboard overhang) are direct replacements for Fender 22-fret necks. My question conerns the position of the pickguard. By: Search Advanced search…I have a customer who has a 24" scale guitar with a 21 fret neck installed, but he wants it to have a 25. A 1/8" (3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. On 24 fret necks it has to be moved back toward the bridge some (taking it off. Hard to find in this condition. Black limba body. The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. Please visit FretFind 2D . Would make a great main guitar, backup or mod platform. Make template of pocket, scribe to bottom of neck -keeping in mind range where the scale length works w/saddle adjustments. . Crypto1. I use my large three-corner file (also called a cant saw file). It has 21 frets, but it looks to be all in the fretboard overhang and might fit on a 20-fret body. Jun 20, 2008. Last edited: Aug 8, 2020. 6mm, hench my overhang clearing it, but not by much So all as per ave. Sand the entire length of the fretboard with the same motions, making sure to keep your radius even across the length of the frets. You do need the fretboard overhang like a strat but that's no biggie as well. Normally it means removing the fretboard first, but in my case the neck was already loose, so I did not have to. Bolts on the same and intonates properly. Measurements are. 720 Mod Neck Pocket Depth. You may have to do this a number of times. The pickguard would hold the heel at an angle in the pocket. Sign In. 1 mm action at 12th is a bit high. It has 21 frets, but it looks to be all in the fretboard overhang and might fit on a 20-fret body. necessary to add 1 or 2 strings in order to get a low tunning sound character and increasing the number of frets on the fretboard to 30 frets, the more new. My 2¢. Please check the Warmoth website to ensure this neck will for your neck pocket. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. Regarding the bridge, the bridge designs you have listed will all have to be recessed into the body, or you can build some angle into your new neck heel to pitch the strings at a higher. You've read the diagram correctly. 25in) solid. Also, PRS in general is not. STEP TWO: Cigar Box Guitar Neck-build Details: Use hardwood. Anybody. 35mm (0. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. Seems like the MIM (and MIJ) necks don't, but the MIA's do. Fretboards have a certain radius on the surface, and values from 7-20 inches are commonly seen. . 75" Scale conversion neck but I can't find anything about the size of the fretboard overhang, which could be an issue for me. There are four input modes for overhang. However, without the overhang, it may be difficult to adjust the saddles enough to get proper intonation. Dec 25, 2015 #5. 1: in Fretfind, there is a variable called "fretboard overhang" that describes how much wider your fretboard/nut is than the outside of your strings. also, will i really need to make the bridge adjustment, considering warmoth uses fretboard overhang instead of extending the neck? Dec 27, 2007 #20. Then evaluate the saddles grooves so see if they need. Staten Island NYC. Most guitars these days fall somewhere between 12 and 17 inch radii. Sep 2, 2019. Fretboard Overhang. Fretboard Radius: 12” Tuners: 2+2 Sperzel Locking. IMO a 24 fret extension on a 4 string would be a waste of $$$$. File the frets back. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. On a Dlx 5 string,. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. Fretboard Radius 10" - 16" Compound Number of Frets 22 Inlay Shape Standard Dots Inlay Material Black Side Dots Black Side Dots Mounting Holes Standard 4-Bolt Neck Heel Shape Strat® Shape. As I am. 25") based on the bridges You want equal string spacing Fretboard overhang is the amount of space from the middle of the string to the edge of the fretboard, again the last String is the low string and the first String is the high string . Just plan to be unconventional and make a custom pickguard. Business, Economics, and Finance. Only bodies and necks from. I have had a Tommy era never mounted all maple USAG Strat neck laying around for years so it's at the luthier for a closeish Tele headstock reshape and stainless refret for a parts build. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. Enter total playing length of string: Enter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter. Hey folks, new guy here. After playing Fender Strats for many years I bought my first Warmoth Strat build and ordered the "standard" 22 fret pro neck. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. 11-20-2010, 05:02 PM. So you get a strat with 24 frets that you can actually reach (instead of that annoying fretboard overhang like Warmoth). Tape the paper to the fretboard. I found a new Fender Player neck, but it interestingly seems slightly shorter than the original. Frets: 21 Stainless Steel with a fretboard overhang. Plus we will add a heel and drill and tap it to accept a threaded rod that will be tightened against the heel trapping the front side of the box and continue through and ou the back to create a truss that will counteract string. 0″ (or 8/8″) – 3/8″ = 5/8″. A fretboard is the part of a stringed musical instrument on which the strings are mounted. The fretboard is slightly easier to model, especially since we now have the drawings from the beginning. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangPosted by u/wies5 - 4 votes and 3 commentsEpiphone Les Pauls are popular with players at all levels, from beginners to budget-conscious pros—and with good reason. Squier-holic. 5 scale, but shorter 24. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. This neck fits most Tele® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. I would leave it, its not uncommon to have a overhang, also cutting 0. John Eppstein wrote: trock. The correct neck for my kit has approximately 7/16" of fretboard overhang. If I account for fretboard overhang and pickup rings how far sh. Check out this video from Warmoth: which explains their "720 mod" option on their bodies which effects this gap. Jul 16, 2012 #14 hammer40 said:From the pictures in your other thread and the pdf, it looks to me as if maybe you are missing the fretboard overhang. If I account for fretboard overhang and pickup rings how far sh. 0625 is not enough clearance for a pickguard to fit under the 22 fret overhang when the neck is in the pocket. Should work ok. . 5mm pickgaurd is standard 3 ply at around 2. trock. Price From $242. 060" or . It’s not easy and cheap, but it can be done with a starting price of $300. 83" at the first fret , . for the 1/16th of an inch difference you don't even need to take the frets out. For the math-impaired: 1. The fretboard overhang is very rarely completely flush to the body, to allow for some minor neck pocket depth variance and adjustment. to cut a long story short you have to cut 1/4 of an inch off the heel, which works out ok because then you have a little fretboard overhang to cover up anything that doesn't look perfect. 090", although there's certainly no. . 83" at the first fret , . 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. #1. Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. 625" to . Reactions: cip 123. Starcasters (Squier and Fender) have 22-fret necks with no overhang (that is, the 22nd fret is on the fretboard proper, not on an overhang off the end - see top pic below). Messages 1,565. Also, PRS in general is not. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. When installing a neck with a fretboard overhang it is critical to ensure the overhang has enough clearance to accommodate your pickguard. . Messages 10,311. If you press too hard, you may cut into the fretboard or binding. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. If the neck isn’t fitted correctly, the guitar won’t be able to play. Feb 27, 2014 #25 monty said: Thanks Rick but a quick question. Most 22-fret Fender necks have the 22nd fret on an overhang. Jun. . However you now have an extra fret without having to move the bridge. Nov 30, 2005 Southern Ontario. The neck thickness is 21mm in the middle of the. 83" at the first fret , . It's designed for those who are going without a pickguard and don't want a visible gap under the fretboard overhang. Place 120 grit 3M sticky sandpaper across the entire length of the straight bar now. The neck fits in the pocket the same way and the nut is the same distance from the bridge. Messages 24,425. 83" at the first fret , . Special upgrades include a Badass II bridge, Greasebucket master tone, graphite-reinforced neck, and a '70s headstock logo. Paper, sand paper, thin metal sheet, carton…. If you took a Tele neck and glued a piece of fretboard to the end with an additional fret on it, it wouldn't change the relationship between the nut, the 12th fret and the bridge. Having that much room between the neck pocket and the. Just unboxed a DIY kit and test fitted the neck. Riverdrifter, Kenneth Mountain, dbrian66 and 1 other person. pretty certain that they meant just a neck pocket wifth shim to have a standard neck fit. It almost has to be pointed out to be noticed. Actually never thought of the fact I was holding a guitar, it disappeared from my thoughts and I was immersed in the playing. A PRS Silver Sky has a full 22 fret neck where the neck shaft and fingerboard are flush with each other and no overhang. Jun 2, 2023. 83" at the first fret , . I've already routed out the pickup cavities based on a template set. I was trying to model it after my RG550 neck that has an overhang for the upper frets. . The heat will soften the glue and the pressure willallow the fretboard and neck to slide over each other a little bit to realign under the pressure. The joint edges on my Gibson guitars look much like on your ES-175. So the fact that your 22-fret neck does not appear to have a headstock truss rod adjustment suggests it's not an overhang neck, and may. 75” nut width. You should, however, keep in mind that if the fretboard overhangs its heel in this case, you’ll need to cut some space between the pickguard and the fretboard in order to get it to fit. Up-bow when its unstrung is also a little strange, but its how it plays when strung that matters. "," (Please note, in FretFind the first string is shown on the far right "," where the high E string would be on a typical right-handed guitar. I just don't want to screw things up any worse. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. It didn’t take much to fix it. 625" to . If there is not gap, there is the potential that the very bottom of the fretboard will contact the pickguard and in some cases, that pressure can cause the fretboard at that position to "ski ramp" up and cause all kinds of issues with fret. Lemon oil for the fretboard, which is a very nice Rosewood. - Possible fretboard overhang interference. Mill your lumber. The fretboard overhang on the neck will cover the gap that the neck leaves. EDIT - oops, sorry, I didn't read properly and didn't realise the Pacifica had a 22 fret. String width (space between first and last string) at nut is 1. Specs: Model: A2. Guitars: electric, acoustic; accessories; and other musical instruments. The screws are going right through the body, flush with the backplate and bottom. You can use a Fender spec neck on it but unless it is a 22 fret with the fretboard overhang you will see a gap at the end between it and the neck pocket. You could also have a bit of fretboard overhang to hide the repair you will do. Continue the pattern up and down the fretboard, naming each chord as you play it, and do the same with an E chord,. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. It's the yellow one. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. In short, unless someone has done a lot of reengineering, I don't think having less fretboard overhang by itself will help the sound. PG Custom Guitars is located in the South East of England. 13. You don't need to pine for the el-cheap-o bass you had as a kid to find a narrower neck. If you put a longer scale neck on a short scale body, the bridge simply must move away from the nut. I didn't. The body is a mighty mite and has a deeper than standard neck pocket. It has evidence of smoke damage, and repairs include: Neck reset (was set low on bass side), Replaced bridge plate, two spruce patches each on treble and bass side of X brace, 3 cleats to rear of sound hole, long rectangular patch underneath fretboard overhang, 5 repaired top cracks from bridge to back, two repaired top cracks on either side of. If we routed a 1. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Avoid spot heating in just one place. Mildew Jones. The neck pocket shapes are different and one will not fit or intonate with the other. May 18, 2016. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. the reason gibson style guitars have neck angle is because the birdge is higher, and since the bridge saddles are higher than the nut, the note made by the frist fret and the 13th fret would be different, basically the action would be higher towards the high end of the neck, and the action would be lower towards the nut. I've been wanting to do this for the last several months but haven't been able to find a good 5 string candidate with a slim neck. Mildew Jones. Hence, the hemorrhoid known as the "locking. At the age of 69, and with self-isolation a reality, I decided to fulfill a long-cherished dream and build a 1965-era Strat. . Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. The type of truss rod installed would have an impact, but not where it's adjusted. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. That’s exactly where I’d put the pickup. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. 1) I based it around a Jazzmaster neck pocket position, but with the Jaguar's neck pickup positioned relative to the end of the fretboard-overhang on a 22-fret neck, so the whole body sits about a half-inch 'lower' than the FCS interpretation. The Marketplace; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . M. Not that it matters, but G&L's necks are built to the end of the fretboard as opposed to the fretboard extension/overhang found on Fender's neck and most Fender-style guitars. 050”, 0. prorecordingworkshop. 75" neck, you MUST use the Warmoth. See both screenshots that have the yellow highlights pointing at the areas. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. Aug 8, 2020. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. deesonic Supporting Member. The Jazz is narrower than the Precision. iamlowsound. I'm pretty sure the majority of strats don't have this, my MIM strat's board is flush with the rest of neck pocket. Ontario County. Nov 17, 2011 #15 Well, frankly, I have never seen a full-offset neck like yours, but I was hoping I could help. Originally posted by MakeAJazzNoiseHere View Post. I do most teles I build with 22 frets. Used – Excellent. #4. This reduces the height of the gap between the top of the body and the bottom of the fretboard where it overhangs at the 22nd fret. Display results as threadsFretboard Contour – This is the radial slope of the fret board. As a plus,. Then I marked the string intersection points on this imaginary nut. 5 scale. Contact me if you want something specific, otherwise I'll give you a heel adjust spokewheel or hex nut rod. If it does this with no screws there are limited reasons it could be happening. 5 radius fretboard approx . Includes vintage style tuners as shown. I've also already done a trussrod slot with. Dec 18, 2014. Using an overhang also means replacement parts remain compatible, e. Good to know. The overhang doesnt bother me visually, and its nice to have a couple more frets. Also, the heel looks long enough that if I cut. org Regular. Enter total playing length of string: Enter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter number of frets to calculate:For overhang past the fretboard, I run a large file up and down the fretboard edge. 5mm) heel pocket depth is just on 0. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. Direct typing of inches or metric is a nice feature too, without having to switch between the two measurement systems globally. 7mm) gap between the pickup ring and the end of. 5" and the neck is made to fit a Fender guitar it should be fine, however. #14 · Mar 7, 2017. IMO a 24 fret extension on a 4 string would be a waste of $$$$. Likewise, the Saddles need to be closer to the nut for shorter scale. There's a seller on Ebay selling tele necks. The fretboard overhang sits above the body, but the gap is only . Now the neck I bought is 24 frets, but I just realized. + $12 Shipping. Do I: a) Shim the neck somehow b) File away the pickguard under the overhang (no idea the best way to do this) c) File. It is not possible to fit a neck on a guitar without it. Whomever it was didn't look up the specs on the elite. If this was the only problem, I'd probably just forget about it since it's going to be under the fretboard overhang and I probably won't be able to see it. It will be less than 1/32" on each side by the 1st fret and progressively less as you go up the neck as you won't want to change the heel width. More Info. I wouldn't be in a rush to move the bridge or neck. That's the purpose of the overhang, so any 21 or 22 fret neck with the overhang will fit any body without having to change the neck pocket or bridge placement. Let the side of the fretboard overhang the edge just a little bit. Fretboard Overhang: When replacing a 21-fret neck with a 22-fret neck, you may. Most basses have a rosewood fingerboard or a maple fingerboard. Jazzmaster® Replacement Neck .